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Composite Unit Training Exercise (COMPTUEX)



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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

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Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

Per riallacciare il discorso iniziato con red, avete notato che non si parla di force recon nella didascalia ma è molto generale? Solo di marines appartenenti alla 24th MEU, eppure le flight badge di questi tipi sono eloquenti.... c'è il simbolo NATO di un "unità anfibia da ricognizione" e quante ne conoscete nei marines? poi c'era anche l'altra didascalia presa da usmc.mil che parlava chiaramente di force recon.
Per esempio guardate queste 2 foto dello stesso training

Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

Marines and Sailors with the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit take part in Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). The 24th MEU took part in COMPTUEX Nov. 28 to Dec. 21. The training served to develop cohesion between the 24th MEU and Amphibious Squadron 8 (PHIBRON 8) in conducting amphibious operations, crisis response, and limited contingency operations while operating from the sea. (Official USMC Photo by: Lance Cpl. Michael Petersheim/ Released)

Dall'equipaggiamento è chiaro che non sono force recon ma qualche battalion landing team (fanteria delle MEU), eppure non c'è distinzione nella didascalia... questo non ci facilita certo la vita

Poi sempre riguardo a quel discorso, secondo un piccolo ragionamento sarei arrivato a sbrogliare la matassa delle differenze tra force recon e recon battalion anche grazie a queste ultime foto.
Secondo me quelli che noi chiamiamo force recon non sono altro che i direct action e i reconnaissance platoon delle unità MEU, quindi sono piccole unità con compiti speciali al servizio delle MEU mentre i recon battalion sono battaglioni distaccati dalle MEU che "agiscono indipendentemente" e che sono più simili ad un piccolo esercito da ricognizione (con la sua unità di fanteria, comando, artiglieria e logistica). Ossia, sono sempre soldati che hanno effettuato l'addestramento da ricognitori però agiscono più come un unità di fanteria super addestrata (ricordate generation kill? è l'esempio perfetto...).
Magari ho scoperto l'acqua calda però al momento alcuni aspetti dei marines mi sono ancora oscuri, tra cui la fantomatica differenza tra FR e recon BN

Voi che dite? Mi sembra una spiegazione logica

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Magari ho scoperto l'acqua calda però al momento alcuni aspetti dei marines mi sono ancora oscuri, tra cui la fantomatica differenza tra FR e recon BN

Secondo me hai scoperto l' acqua calda...

Seriamente, i FR platoon agganciati alle MEU (che non sono altro che la più piccola unità QRF a disposizione all' interno della FMF) fanno parte del Ground Combat Element della MEU, e danno ad essa gli strumenti necessari per avere capacità di ricognizione, DA ecc... quelo che gli permette di essere Special Operations Capable.

Questo è quello che ho capito leggendo un pò in giro, poi tante volte capita che le didascalie sia generiche o addirittura sbagliate; non si può essere sempre certi al 100%.

p.s. alcune foto della serie mi mancavano, grazie!