MS2000 + retention nel 2013...pensavo non si vedessero più i secondi
U.S. Marines with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) hold security around a compound in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
U.S. Marines with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) prepare to enter a compound in Showal, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) hands candy to Afghan children in Showal, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) conducts a foot patrol in Showal, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) fires his M203 grenade launcher in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Navy Corpsman with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) provides security to an entrance in an abounded compound in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) hands a bag of candy to an Afghan child in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) runs into an abounded compound while receiving small arms fire from enemy positions in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) runs through smoke while receiving small arms fire from enemy positions in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) conducts a foot patrol in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
U.S. Marines with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) conduct a foot patrol in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) fires on an insurgent position in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
U.S. Marines with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) conduct a search for a known insurgent in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) holds security around a compound in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
U.S. Marines with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) hold security around a compound in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) uses a secure electronic enrollment kit on an Afghan local in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity.
A U.S. Marine with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) holds security in an abandoned compound in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
U.S. Marines with Fox Company, 2nd Battalion, 2nd Marines (2/2) conduct a foot patrol in Habib Abad, Helmand province, Afghanistan, June 27, 2013. Marines with 2/2 conducted a cordon and search to prevent and deter insurgent activity
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Sergeant Michael Dowell, a reconnaissance Marine serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, sights in his .50 caliber sniper rifle during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. Dowell, 29, from Elko, Nev., serves as the sniper for his team as well as the pointman.
Sergeant Nate Kerr, a reconnaissance Marine serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, sets his C-4 charges to destroy an enemy's weapons cache during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. Kerr, 25, from Dana Point, Calif., serves as the demolition expert for his team.
Marines serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, fire at enemy targets during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. The Marines of Alpha Co. conducted the training to add new capabilities to the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit they will support.
Sergeant Nate Kerr and Staff Sgt. Nicholas Busby, reconnaissance Marines serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, fire at enemy targets during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. Kerr, 25, from Dana Point, Calif., Busby, 27, from Belleville, Ill., and their team maneuvered around a hill to flank the enemy.
Sergeant Billy Bustos, a reconnaissance Marine serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, fires at enemy targets during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. Bustos, 23, from Los Angeles, and his team breached through the enemy's wire obstacles, which allowed the other teams to maneuver around them.
Sergeant Aaron Ligon, a reconnaissance Marine serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, fires the AT-4 antitank rocket at an enemy machine gun bunker during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. Ligon, 22, from Sierra Vista, Ariz., serves as the radio operator as well as the antitank rocketman for his team.
Sergeant Nate Kerr, a reconnaissance Marine serving with Alpha Company, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion, calls out the distance and locations of enemy objectives during a raid exercise here, July 10, 2013. Kerr, 25, from Dana Point, Calif., serves as the demolition expert for his team.
U.S. Marine Corps Capt. Patrick Zuber, a company commander with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) speaks with the Marines after completing a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, center, commanding general, 1st Marine Division, gives a challenge coin to Sgt. Greg Harris, left, point man,1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn), for his performance during a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marines from 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) patrol to a consolidation point after completing a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) conduct a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) establish a firing position for M240 machine guns during a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) patrol range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Torim Costello, a team leader with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) gives orders to machine gunners during a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) rush to a firing position during a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) position themselves for a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) patrol range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit
U.S. Marines with 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) patrol range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit
U.S. Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, right, commanding general, 1st Marine Division talks with Marines of 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn) before a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
U.S. Marine Corps Maj. Gen. Lawrence D. Nicholson, left, commanding general, 1st Marine Division talks with Capt. Patrick Zuber, company commander, 1st Reconnaissance Battalion (1st Recon Bn), before a company assault on range 800 aboard Camp Pendletion, Cailf., July 15, 2013. 1st Recon Bn is preparing for an upcoming deployment with the 11th Marine Expeditionary Unit.
da quando i Marines hanno la mutanda balistica??
Chi mi spiega il senso dell'M27??
credo siano entrate in distribuzione insieme all'esercito da inzio anno..la parola ai più esperti...
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è già da un pò che stanno sperimentando la nuova protezione balistica. Prima era solo in multicam, ora in marpat desert quindi credo che sia stata "promossa" a tutti gli effetti.
Sull'M27 abbiamo già discusso e troppo ci sarebbe ancora da discutere ancora però il comando USMC ha deciso così, che ci vuoi fare?
Secondo la loro "analisi strategica" quando una pattuglia esce in missione il tizio con l'arma più grossa viene preso di mira subito sia perchè è quello che mette in difficoltà più degli altri (muoversi sotto il fuoco di un arma a nastro non è saggio) e sia perchè visto il peso è quello più impacciato nei movimenti e rallenta tutto il gruppo. Quindi la loro idea era di sostituire tutte le mitragliatrici leggere (le minimi, appunto) con un fucile molto simile a quello degli altri fanti e più leggero di una SAW ma con la capacità di mantenere un fuoco sostenuto senza dare problemi. Secondo loro questa cosa porta i seguenti vantaggi:
- leggerezza dell'arma e quindi maggiore agilità dell'operatore
- "camuffamento del mitragliere" che non è più quello con "l'arma più grossa"
- precisione nel fuoco di supporto (pochi colpi ma buoni)
Teoricamente è un ragionamento corretto ma che senso ha avere un arma che è capace di sostenere raffiche prolungate con un caricatore da 30 colpi? Per avere lo stesso numero di munizioni di un saw gunner "classico" dovrebbe portarsi dietro 20 caricatori da 30 e tutto il discorso della leggerenzza e dell'agilità ne risente un pochino. Per non parlare del fattore psicologico perchè quando senti sparare una minimi tieni giù la testa, se senti sparare un "fucile d'assalto" riesci a rispondere al fuoco in qualche modo e sicuramente ne risente anche la sicurezza degli altri operatori.
Alla fine è come se fosse un BAR moderno, avrebbe lo stesso scopo ma hanno la memoria corta e non ricordano che è stato sostituito proprio da armi a nastro leggere
Sesta foto , non si trova scomodo con la pistola sotto la dump pouch ?
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teoricamente si ma se a lui sta bene così significa che più di tanto, fastidio, non gli da
più che altro mi aspetterei di vederli perlomeno in uso con delle CMAG... con i serbatoi da 30 hai voglia a fare copertura... mah...Originariamente inviata da Shark86
Teoricamente è un ragionamento corretto ma che senso ha avere un arma che è capace di sostenere raffiche prolungate con un caricatore da 30 colpi? Per avere lo stesso numero di munizioni di un saw gunner "classico" dovrebbe portarsi dietro 20 caricatori da 30 e tutto il discorso della leggerenzza e dell'agilità ne risente un pochino. Per non parlare del fattore psicologico perchè quando senti sparare una minimi tieni giù la testa, se senti sparare un "fucile d'assalto" riesci a rispondere al fuoco in qualche modo e sicuramente ne risente anche la sicurezza degli altri operatori.
Alla fine è come se fosse un BAR moderno, avrebbe lo stesso scopo ma hanno la memoria corta e non ricordano che è stato sostituito proprio da armi a nastro leggere
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i CMAG sicuramente non li adotteranno perchè non c'è nessuna notizia ufficiale a riguardo, invece c'è qualche voce di corridoio non ufficiale che parla di questi
che sono prodotti dalla surefire e sono da 60rd, ne esiste anche una versione da 100rd ma sarebbero stati scartati per lo stesso motivo dei CMAG, perchè servirebbero delle tasche apposite e molto ingombranti per contenerli
si, sarebbero l'equivalente dei caricatori russi a presentazione quadrifilare... che sono sempre da 60 round... i casi della vita, eh? XD
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